Rough Times with Rough Riders

cwalker3

Took my new cruiser out today, with new 56mm Rough Riders. Was really excited to ride these. They look great, and have a really great shape.

With Bones Swiss bearings, these babies are smoooove and fast. A really nice ride. BUT - they don't slide. At. All. Now, I know how to do a proper frontside slide. A good push is met with EXTREME resistance. And worse yet, look what happened. I was just riding these on parking lot asphalt - yes, 'rough' - but isn't that what they're made for? 

I'm sure Bones will send me a nice new set - but watch out for these. Post your own experience here. Maybe I just got a bad lot. 

Kyle

I bought a set of the PP 86a Gravel Grinders hoping they would slide since I know the Bones ATF formula doesn't. Well the 86a gravel grinders don't slide either. Strange since the 85a Rat Bones do slide. I like the shape, I'm hoping the 97a PP Asymmetrical wheel might perform better, it looks like it has the same shape and hub.

cwalker3

I am ok with a cruiser wheel not sliding or not sliding great. But man, I've never had a wheel explode like this, brand new, first time out.

Dr freedom

horry sheet lol, thats not a good look

WakeInFright

Wtf Tex? Try 85a bombers instead mate

brigade_bill

they arent made for sliding

pulse8

Yeah but they shouldn't fail like that.

WakeInFright

I always question the quality of the urethane on wheels with the plastic hubs. Surely if the urethane is quality it would hold up as homogeneous wheel. Your thoughts....

brigade_bill

i agree but if he was trying to make those wheels slide then it would be normal for them to tear up like that since it isnt what they are meant for and common sense should tell ppl that if u are riding a soft wheel and gonna try and powerslide then it is gonna fall apart because the material is soft and if u want to powerslide then ride a hard wheel

WakeInFright

Yes and no Imo bb. Different horses for different courses. I always found soft wheels slid better on rough terrain and hard on ultra smooth. It was just that the soft wheels wore faster, but never broke up like Tex's bb

Kyle

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The 60mm 85a Bombers are the best all terrain wheel.

WakeInFright

I use them for street Kyle. No problems here!

JB77

Wow, not cool.  That's too bad, they looked rad on that setup.

cwalker3

Serious Bill? I've been skating for a long time, and I've never seen a wheel fall apart like this so fast. No matter the composition. Roller skate wheels on a board, Walmart wheels, even softer Kryptos, whatever. I literally did two slides, and this happened.

WakeInFright

Definitely email Kam. They can't release shit like this dude. You would expect something like that on a cheap complete!

pulse8

Any wheel worth its salt should be able to stand up to attempted slides. Even if it wore down super fast, it shouldn't be tearing open like that.

cwalker3

Yeah, I'm sure Kam will take care of it. Super inconvenient though; I was stoked to finish out the summer on this board.

Even with a new set, not sure what I will do with them if this is how they perform. I am going to look at maybe some Ricta Clouds.

ghostbuster

I have had this same thing happen-- the inside edges of the rear wheels getting all chunky and cut up way before the wheel is even worn-- to both 65mm Sector 9 Nine Balls and 70mm Tunnel Tarantulas; it is hard to find a soft wheel that is also tough.  I am still riding on the Tarantulas, it's possible but annoying, like driving with bad shocks.  Ricta Clouds, in my experience, wear down pretty fast, but don't get cut up like that; I don't know if they make them over 58mm, though.  

JB77

https://www.nhsfunfactory.com/item/22221804/slimeballs/60mm-slime-balls-maggots-78a-wheels

ppk187

Off topic here, but anybody have any experience with the Oj ii combo elites in 95a? I need a new set of wheels and a shop has a set. I'm used to 97's and am kinda hesitant to go any softer but they'd save me having to order online and play the waiting game

WakeInFright

Dunno ppk187, but I highly recommend 85a 60mm bombers Tex. And Ghostie, if you were skating, rather than surfing with your board....just kidding bro!

ghostbuster

The one time I tried surfing was right at the end of a hurricane, and I got a newfound respect for surfing, but also decided it's not something I want to get into.  

  

Even though new wheels aren't that expensive in the grand theme of things, it's really disappointing when a set doesn't outlast your deck or shoes.

brigade_bill

i understand what ur saying and even though most of u have been skating since the 80s u have to realize (and u should have realized this years ago but hey never too old to learn something new) that any duro less than 100a is gonna flatspot/fall apart faster than anything above 100a and as advertised the rough riders are for riding over dirt and gravel,grass etc not for powersliding trust me when i tell u it can be worse

Kyle

@ppk187
The OJ Elite Combos use the same mold as the Slimeball 60mm 97a reissues. I have skated the slimeball wheels and they are fast, wide and center set. When I want to haul ass in a cement bowl, the slimeballs are my go to wheel. You can get an idea what they look like if you go back and find the pics I posted of my Schmitt Stix Joe Lopes Crystal Ball concave reissue.

ppk187

@kyle yeah man I've seen em, just not sure on the duro.. Pretty used to 97's myself

gap

Thanks for the thoughts and info. We will gladly replace these torn wheels. I an deep in the development of new tougher, slidier faster formulas, so for those of you sliding on our fast cruisers, keep the faith.