What pops do you like to skate and why?

I went through two otherbrand pops when I first started skating that I was fine with at the time, but after grabbing a Powell Peralta pop I realized that the tails on these decks were extremely short and made ollies hard for me. Given that there seem to be a million tiny little variations in decks, what are your favorites and why?

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  • powell ones are all i ride
  • edited October 1
    Trucks can change the wheelbase and affect the feel of tail length. Mini logo trucks make a tail feel longer, Thunder/Venture make it feel shorter, though there is variation within a truck brand.
    Risers make a tail feel shorter, as do larger wheels and tall trucks

    If you rode ML trucks or even some 48mm high ones, with 50-52mm wheels and no risers the deck would probably not feel so short

    Steeper tips also feel shorter
  • As mentioned by @Wheelbyte - Trucks and wheels make a big difference, so it's really about finding what works with your truck/wheel combo.

    One thing to look at is the number of fingers worth of flat space between the back truck bolts and where the curve of the tail starts to go up. Decks with less space tend to do better with Ace/Indy and decks with more do better with Thunder/Venture.

    Steepness of the kicks is a big difference - and the current K20 concave Powell/Mini Logo decks have the mellowest kicks I have skated - 18 degrees. Many other decks are in the 21 degree range.

    I really like the Real Ishod Twin Tail shape. Another that works for me well is the Santa Cruz 8.375 shape - even though I dislike most of the Santa Cruz/Creature graphics.
  • edited October 1
    Trucks: In my experience Thunder trucks are the only brand that extends the wheelbase by about a 1/4” and due to their unique base plate extend the tail length. Most other trucks (Indy, Tracker, Gullwing, ace, ML) have almost identical baseplate settings. Almost everyone has copied Independent’s Independent suspension geometry. Honestly Indy makes the best standard truck. They are the perfect height (55mm) and are tough as nails. They can grind the roughest curbs and coping and the smoothest too. Not many trucks can handle the gnarly curb in front of my house, but Indy’s always do!

    Decks: Most DLX (real, antihero, krooked) and black label have longer tails on their pops. All those brands are made by Generator and the wood is good.

    Andy Anderson’s 9” deck has a large 6.75” tail, but it’s not a pop.

    I don’t like the K20 decks either....too short and the kicks are too mellow.
  • I found that when I went from Gullwing Sidewinders(pretty much a Pro 3 or 4 with plastic baseplate) to Tracker Dart Sixtracks I lost about 1/4-1/2” on my wheelbase @ovaldragon
  • black label is made in mexico by ps sticks
  • PS Stix designs the shapes for black label, but generator makes them.
  • ok guess they changed woodshops then
  • @ovaldragon trucks cant extend the wheelbase and the tail/nose length at the same time
  • edited October 2
    @Wheelbyte

    Thunders have a smaller baseplate and their hanger sits back more than most trucks. Put Indy’s on a deck, measure from axle tip to axle tip, measure the tail from where the baseplate ends to the tip of the tail. Do the same with thunders.... the wheelbase and tail will both be longer...
  • edited October 2
    @ovaldragon

    okay the smaller baseplate technically extends tip length...
    but as far as the feel of a longer tail goes it does little
    except tail and nose slide area, blunts, drop ins, etc


    but are we here talking about tip length feel as it relates to pop tricks, or tip length without imputing its effect on pop tricks
  • @ovaldragon I reread this and realized I made it sound like I don't like the Powell K20 pops, but that's not what I meant. I definitely like them more than what I skated before because they have longer kicks, but I'm an optimization nerd because I have a lot more time stuck in a cubicle than I do on my board.
  • Rodney likes being stuck in a cubicle
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