Couple questions for those in the know:
Is the PF formula of the Bowlriders and Bombers the same as the SPF formula? I've tried researching this, but can't find a yes or no answer, just some nuanced, ambiguous language.
Also, would the wider contact patch of the 60mm Bombers make them grippier than the SPF 60's (which I alread ride)?
Thanks for clearing this up for me.
Comments
that the SPF's are both harder & faster (on smooth concrete) - Maybe it has
something to do w/the wheels' profiles, but I'd swear that the PF Bombers
are grippier, but slower (not just in accelerating due to their bigger size but
in top end as well). I'd definitely like to see if some 64mm SPFs would be the
ultimate in carving speed...
Also, I'm beyond stoked to see the return of the orange/red flames
graphic on the hot rod models, will most certainly be stocking up on
a few of 'em when they come in - It sure is nice to know that there's
a company out there like Powell, whose stuff isn't just 7.5 -8" wide,
or, only over 42" in length either. There's a whole lotta in between
both extremes,& thankfully, Powell's got it (& me) covered!
Is "natural" a different formula all together?
should I have started a whole new thread?
If you were to compare the DTF to other wheels with a durometer rating, what hardness does DTF resemble the most? 95a? 97a? 99a?
DTF - 97ish
STF - 99ish
SPF - 101ish
a replaced a set of Sector9's "Goddess of Speed" wheels (73mm 80a = big & slow) on my downhill longboard w/68mm 85a Bombers - a helluva difference in both speed & responsiveness. Haven't tried either STF or DTF yet, but can honestly say that the best wheels for parks/bowls are the SPFs, & the 64mm Bowl Bombers
(95a for rougher crete, PF for bigger trannies). There's alot to be said for Powell's in-house production/ R&D as opposed to just slapping some graphics on another urethane manufacturers' molds, and calling it your own (worse, hyping it in an ad as "new improved formula). Too many companies out there get away w/shortchanging their customers, even loyal ones. (Just look at Spitfire's up & down record, among others).
As far as the Natural formula goes though, the previously mentioned 68mm 85a Bombers dust the Surf1 68mm 85a Bombers, no contest. Same duro/size numbers, but different formulas means big difference. They're nowhere near each other when it comes to speed pure & simple, not even close.
if we need to learn what it is, tell us all about it :)
grip for miles, but slides when you want it to.
it'd be great if they came in a "97ish" hardness as well - I'd be all over it.
here are some options;
the Bowlriders are a 60x37 95a
the Skull and Swords 58x37 90a
and the Bomber 60x40 85a
if i was looking to get a new wheel with those dimensions i would personally try the SPF 62x40. they are harder than what your looking for but hold the shape that your requesting. we all skate different terrain so its hard for me to say what would be best for you. good luck with whatever you choose.
http://www.ttequip.com/KnowledgeLibrary/TechPageShoreDurometerConversionChart.htm
Soc - what formula urethane do you use for the street series?
please try to be honest.